Then you will see it fade very hard, because of its high fade rating, as it loses speed. When you throw the Firebird RHBH, you will see it veering to the left for about 300 feet. Compared to the Thunderbird, the Firebird fares better against headwinds. The Firebird has the same turn rating as the Thunderbird – but they have different stability. If thrown right, the most probable distance you can get from the Thunderbird is somewhere around 350 to 400 feet. ![]() For about 300 feet, it will maintain that course then it will fade a little to the left for about another 80 feet. Under perfect conditions, the Innova Thunderbird will fly only slightly to the left with an RHBH throw. Of course, it will only fly straight if the proper throwing technique, arm speed, and arm strength are applied. That means that it is not very speed-sensitive (unlike an under stable disc) and will likely fly very straight with a right-hand backhand (RHBH) throw. By perfect conditions, I mean with the right technique, the proper arm speed and strength, and the appropriate weather conditions. Let’s look closer at how the two discs will fly under perfect conditions. On the other hand, Firebird has a speed rating of 9, a glide rating of 3, 0 turn, and a high 4 for the fade.Īs you can see, there is a lot of difference between how the two discs should fly. The Innova Thunderbird disc has a speed rating of 9, a max glide of 5, 0 turn, and a fade of 2. The ratings give the players an idea of how the disc will perform under perfect conditions. RatingsĮvery disc golf player should know how to read disc ratings. But those two differences give these two discs very varied performances. So far, the two discs seem almost exactly the same except for very small differences in height and rim depth. The Firebird has a diameter of 21.1 cm, a height of 1.4 cm, a rim depth of 1.2 cm, and a rim width of 1.9 cm. The Thunderbird has a diameter of 21.2 cm, a height of 1.6 cm, a rim depth of 1.1 cm, and a rim width of 1.9 cm. I would have much rather had the gold colored Gibson case, at least it's a rectangle shape.In the dimensions category, I will give you the physical characteristics and measurements of the two discs. It definitely seems to keep the guitar safe, but there's extra room in there to fit an Explorer and its an unwieldy case to pack in the truck for gigs and stuff. I ended up buying the SKB molded case that fits Firebirds and Explorers for about $170 or so. ![]() There aren't a lot of aftermarket cases available for the Firebird, and you can't even order one separately from Gibson(I even tried through a dealer). Or at least have your case situation figured out. I will suggest to look at a 2017 if you're buying new. Not to mention with the Firebird, I preferred the 2016 anyways. Kinda seems like Gibson put the dealers in a tough spot by lowering the inflated 2015 prices in 2016, making it impossible to move much of the 2015 stuff leftover. When I was purchasing I inquired about how close to the 2016 price they could do on the 2015, and they weren't able to come close at all. The same place has had a 2015 sitting there, and was still there last time I was in a few weeks ago. I bought my 2016 as soon as they arrived(Nov 2015 or so), actually had to have one transferred in from another store.
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